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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: No icon Dual Boot Reply with quote

 Hi  I  need  a  little  advice,  At  present  I  am  using  XP32  on  a  single  drive  but  In  my  PC  are  2  other  drives  in  raid  which  have  XP64  (these  are  not  connected  at  present)  
 So  the  question  is  how  do  I  set  up  my  PC  to  use  both  XP  64  and  XP32  
 
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 hmmm,
 i  never  tried  xp64  bit
 but  it  should  be  easy  if  u  use  "grub"  as  bootmanager,  he  is  quite  smart  and  normally  will  automatically  see,  which  OS  u  use  and  gets  the  settings  easily.
 If  xp  64  uses  the  same  kind  of  bootmanager  like  xp32  than  it  should  be  really  easy,  its  only  1  line  in  the  bootmanager  u  have  to  copy  to  the  mainbooting  harddrive
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 i  thought  i  knew  how  to  do  this  but  XPs  boot  manager  isnt  as  easy  as  Vistas.
 
 Will  try  and  help  tomorrow  but  will  involve  editing  the  boot  manager  manually  which  is  a  pain.
 
 
 As  thorsten  said,  Grub  can  be  used,  but  Grub  is  overly  complicating  and  is  mainly  used  for  dual  booting  osx  and  linux  etc.
 
 What  im  sure  alls  you  need  to  do  is  pull  up  the  boot.ini  from  your  C:  drive.
 
 Considering  xp32  is  on  your  C:  drive  you  will  see  something  like:
 
 
                                                 
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 [boot  loader]
 timeout=30
 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
 [operating  systems]
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  Home  Edition"  /fastdetect
 
                 

 
 
 Where  timeout  =  the  time  the  boot  selection  screen  shows
 Default=  Default  partition  and  disk.  rdisk(0)  is  your  first  drive,  with  partition(1)  the  only  partition  with  the  windows  directory  WINDOWS
 
 Operating  systems  is  where  your  multiple  operating  systems  can  be  set  up.
 
 I  have  2  xp  32  bits  installed  atm,  so  my  boot.ini  file  in  my  C:  drive  looks  like:  
 
 
 
 
 
                                                 
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 [boot  loader]
 timeout=5
 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)WINDOWS
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 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  Home  Edition"  /fastdetect
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  Home  Edition"  /fastdetect
 
                 

 
 So  in  theory,  if  you  have  all  3  drives  connected,  XP32bit  on  your  first  (C    drive,  and  xp64  on  your  (D    and  (E    drives  considering  they  are  in  raid,  which  you  have  set  up  to  be  mirrored?
 
 You  will  then  open  boot.ini  on  your  first  drive,  and  will  see  the  entry  for  xp32
 
 You  want  to  leave  everything  intact,  but  add  the  following  line:
 
 
 
                                                 
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 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  64bit"  /fastdetect
 
 
 
                 

 
 
 So  now  your  boot.ini  should  look  something  like:
 
 
 
                                                 
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 [boot  loader]
 timeout=30
 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
 [operating  systems]
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  Home  Edition"  /fastdetect
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  64bit"  /fastdetect
 
                 

 
 Now  you  have  only  changed  what  number  the  disk  is  with  64bit  on,  and  the  description.
 
 In  theory  this  will  work  but  not  everything  is  as  simple.
 
 You  may  have  to  set  up  in  bios  that  your  (C    xp  32bit  drive  has  priority  to  boot  first
 
 Then  once  rebooted  you  should  get  a  black  screen  pop  up  asking  you  to  select  which  operating  system  and  each  selection  should  work.
 
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 Wow  ty  Tom  i  will  print  this  lot  out  and  have  a  good  look.
 ill  try  this  and  let  you  know  how  i  get  on.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 Hiya  Dave,
 
 im  not  sure  if  this  option  will  work  (changing  the  boot  ini  from  XP)  because  vista  uses  a  very  different  boot  loader  in  combination  with  a  very  different  file  system.
 
 If  it  doesnt  work,  you  have  to  clean  the  vista  drives,  connect  them  with  the  xp  drives  present  (xp  as  primary  boot)  and  reinstall  vista,  this  way  the  vista  boot  loader  will  include  xp  as  a  bootable  os.  Keep  in  mind  that  vista  will  alter  the  boot  loader  on  the  primairy  disk  (xp)  as  well  and  if  you  decide  to  go  back  to  xp  only  you  will  need  to  run  fixboot  from  the  admin  console  from  the  xp  install  cd  to  reload  the  whole  boot  loader  from  xp.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 [quote:557b951cf7=  DareDevil-RS-  ;p=  34145  ]Hiya  Dave,
 
 im  not  sure  if  this  option  will  work  (changing  the  boot  ini  from  XP)  because  vista  uses  a  very  different  boot  loader  in  combination  with  a  very  different  file  system.
 
 If  it  doesnt  work,  you  have  to  clean  the  vista  drives,  connect  them  with  the  xp  drives  present  (xp  as  primary  boot)  and  reinstall  vista,  this  way  the  vista  boot  loader  will  include  xp  as  a  bootable  os.  Keep  in  mind  that  vista  will  alter  the  boot  loader  on  the  primairy  disk  (xp)  as  well  and  if  you  decide  to  go  back  to  xp  only  you  will  need  to  run  fixboot  from  the  admin  console  from  the  xp  install  cd  to  reload  the  whole  boot  loader  from  xp.
 
 Greetz  Jos                

 
 
 he  is  setting  up  XP  32  bit  and  XP  64bit,  not  XP  and  Vista.


  
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 Have  said  nothing,  sorry  for  the  misunderstanding.  Embarassed  
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 I  have  2  hard  drives
 
 one  vista  
 
 one  with  xp
 
 when  i  start  pc  push  F8  and  it  asks  me  which  hard  drive  i  want  to  boot  from  whether  you  have  xp  and  xp  or  vista/xp  as  long  as  they  on  different  physical  hard  drives  i    dont  see  point  of  messing  about  with  the  boot  files
 
 
 that  make  sense  or  that  completely  wrong  type  of  thing  you  after?


 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 i  have  dual  boots  for  work   Wink  
 
 one  left  one
 
 and
 
 one  right  one
 
 left  one  for  ...hmmmm  ....left   Wink  
 
 and  right  one  for  xp  ..no  ..wait  ...hmmmm  ..i  forgot   Embarassed  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 [quote:3bce9871f9=  PhilKill=RS=  ;p=  34194  ]I  have  2  hard  drives
 
 one  vista  
 
 one  with  xp
 
 when  i  start  pc  push  F8  and  it  asks  me  which  hard  drive  i  want  to  boot  from  whether  you  have  xp  and  xp  or  vista/xp  as  long  as  they  on  different  physical  hard  drives  i    dont  see  point  of  messing  about  with  the  boot  files
 
 
 that  make  sense  or  that  completely  wrong  type  of  thing  you  after?                

 
 
 All  depends  on  what  BIOS  he  has,  not  all  have  this  feature.
 
 All  BIOSs  have  a  boot  priority  order,  which  can  be  modified  in  the  BIOS,  but  this  takes  around  3  mins  plus  a  reboot,  but  the  other  way  is  the  XP  boot  file  way,  where  you  are  presented  with  available  operating  systems  on  boot  then  you  select  one  and  hit  enter.


  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 Yes  I  can  F8  but  have  not  tried  this  but  the  solution  with  a  entry  screen  and  choose  which  OS  sounds  better  (idiot  proof  I  hope)  so  I  will  test  asap  and  let  you  know  
 
 Morc  you  fool   Very Happy  
 
 Justin  blame  SIGURD  I  was  happy  with  XP64   Evil or Very Mad  
 
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 [quote:7e054de6bc=  sharp  ;p=  34226  ]
 All  depends  on  what  BIOS  he  has,  not  all  have  this  feature.
 
 All  BIOSs  have  a  boot  priority  order,  which  can  be  modified  in  the  BIOS,  but  this  takes  around  3  mins  plus  a  reboot,  but  the  other  way  is  the  XP  boot  file  way,  where  you  are  presented  with  available  operating  systems  on  boot  then  you  select  one  and  hit  enter.                

 
 first  my  dear,  3mins  for  changing  bootpriority  in  bios?  
 Now  i  know  why  i  can  shoot  u  easily....if  u  take  that  time  for  only  a  few  times  pressing  some  keys  -))))
 
 
 back  to  topic  -))
 second...  he  is  using  a  raidsystem  on  1  of  his  bootpartition  ,  that  will  be  a  little  more  difficult  to  change  biossettings.
 the  bootmanager  should  be  on  the  Raidpartition.
 
 but  lets  wait  a  little  (so  i  can  shoot  Sharp  better)  which  kind  of  solution  lovely  Dave  will  choose  -)))


  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 Ok  im  in  64  bit  used  F8  to  choose  which  drive  and  yes  32  bit  works  too  so  now  all  I  have  to  do  is  add  the  info  to  one  of  the  boot.ini  files  in  the  F8  menu  screen  my  single  32bit  drive  is  at  the  top  of  list  is  this  the  1  to  edit.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: No icon Re: Dual Boot Reply with quote

 I  can  load  as  Philkill  described  and  yes  that?s  good  but  I  must  hit  the  F8  at  the  right  time  lol  and  yes  if  I  do  nothing  XP32  loads  anyway  this  works  and  I  will  use  it  if  I  can  not  solve  the  Dual  boot  menu  in  windows  
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 Tom  here  is  what  happens  in  the  Windows  menu  
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 32Bit  single  drive  
 
 
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 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
 [operating  systems]
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft  Windows  XP  Professional"  /noexecute=optin  /fastdetect
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)WINDOWS="Windows  XP  Professional  x64  Edition"  /noexecute=optin  /fastdetect
 
 
 64Bit  Raid0  in  Stripe
 
 [boot  loader]
 timeout=30
 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
 [operating  systems]
 multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Windows  XP  Professional  x64  Edition"  /noexecute=optin  /fastdetect
 
 Ok  this  is  what  happens  
 
 I  have  boot  menu  screen  
 1  xp  32
 2  xp  64
 
 select  1  and  enter  =  xp32  loads  np  
 
   
 select  2  and  enter  =  Windows  could  not  start  because  the  file  is  missing
   <windows>system32
 toskrnl.exe  
 Please  reinstall  a  copy  of  the  above  file  
 
 Thanks  in  advance  for  your  time  
 
 Dave


  
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